bob Pimenov written interview with me:
«I smoked the blood and nails through the tube»
Insider "Salt" in the world of radical mutants of Art - Dmitry Pimenov - spoke with
«Man differs from the animal's ability to urinate in the fire."
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- You're a month ago, urinated on the eternal flame at the monument to emigrants from the countries of the Warsaw bloc. As far as I know, it was a protest forgiving prosecution your colleagues, artist Oleg Mavromati, the Russian authorities?
- Except for the basic meaning of all my shares - a personal challenge to the power, I would still demonstrate the discovery of revolutionary theory. Man differs from the animal the ability to urinate in the fire. Superman is different from the human ability to urinate into everlasting fire.
- Well, you're not the first thought to exercise such read his superhuman start. And before you artists, used to openly urinated on the shrine. Where is, in fact, a revolution?
- you can not revolutionary cause. You'll also feel the taste, sex and harmony. You will die at the end of life. But whenever you talk about love, justice, beauty - you will lie dirty and shameless. If you do not make the Revolution. Spinoza deduced Theorem morality. I have my own theorem: "The only form of contact with the government - a conflict. " Proof: The power - evil! "Evil is not extinguished with forgiveness, as trying to cheat us iudeohristanskie trends. But criminals, based on Theorem does not angeloeony they fascinates souls their spirit of violence and sakraliziruyut institution of property.
- Let's go back to angeloeonov and fascinates shower to a more mundane matter. How much and what you drank before the action with the eternal flame, to help so lavishly? Because you were even able to to extinguish it!
- A bottle of beer "Sternburg.
- One?
- Well, actually, I hate beer. So, by the way, the first time in ten years to drink.
- I know that basically you're working solo, alone. As this is combined with a project of the revolution? Revolution because it collectively.
- A revolutionary theory gradually refuses to service the wider population. Jacobins cry to all people. Marx narrows its audience to the working class. Lenin appeals to the party professional revolutionaries or to a "conscious minority". A Brazilian theorist of urban guerrilla warfare Carlos Marigella altogether satisfied "Single-fighters." You can add that I do not work alone. Here in the action «Who will deliver me from this body of democracy» to me had a friend who nailed me nailed to the flag of the United Nations in Ifa-Galerie, himself I could not do it. For the cross suffering need outside help (laughs) . And we did it in guerilla warfare, without coordination with the gallery. They called police, and we then another around the corner looking at drove debris.
- This is what fashion is now so - grovel? Mavromati, Herzliya, now even you are. Directly as jogging in the Soviet Union.
- [Philosopher Walter] Benjamin belongs to the aphorism: "Be happy - then do not be afraid, getting to know yourself themselves. Self-crucifixion - the best way to get acquainted with each other. Variant of madness, perhaps. Only referring to the madness, as his mirror, the revolutionaries will be able to understand their own desires. Modern society denies the right of a mad frenzy, declaring it "a mistake of sociality", trying to hide the revolutionary potential madness. It may be folly to say more about reality than painful rationalism. In the words of Thomas Munzer, "to keep your feet firmly stepped on the ground, should head to flee across the sky. " The French Revolution freed from the oppression of the bourgeois relations of the feudal system. Russian revolution tried to free proletariat from bourgeois oppression. The Coming Revolution, named Armageddon, free madness.
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«Poetry could save the Soviet project. When I kissed the bust of Petőfi, I just wanted to express it. "
Photo: BioNihil
- You say, the Russian revolution is only trying to liberate the proletariat. That is, the October draft was so-so and failed?
- carefully examine the actual situation will determine who betrayed the revolution the legacy of Lenin and Stalin and who had fallen into opportunism. They were and are and, unfortunately, will be revisionists. In the Soviet Union, they abolished the dictatorship of the proletariat and restored capitalism, but at first (until late 19
- I look at you and think: on the background of the community of Russian artists you look outsider mutant. They are still far more to such freethinking.
- Yes, I have a mutant. Your Russian artists - they are huckster and burgers that, for example, clearly manifested in the history of the boycott and neboykotom Exhibition in the Louvre - philistine fuss! Boredom! Life is short - philistinism forever, and only those mutants, as I Mavromati, for example, can do something to oppose this world, but they themselves fasten diamonds aces on his back. So I did share DNA Pipe: collecting DNA samples from people for their transfer to terrorists (to use a conspiratorial view), I smoked the blood and nails through the tube, and now Oleg [Mavromati], like Panikovsky, a man without a passport and it would not prevent someone else DNA.
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